HOLLYWOOD, Calif.—Comic and content creator Che Durena is the latest guest on Matt Slayer's And Now We Drink podcast.
Slayer and Durena covered topics such as sex, self-control, and creative ambition across a wide-ranging conversation. The episode began with an examination of porn habits, masturbation rituals, dopamine management, edging, and the psychology of "earning" a better orgasm. From there, they unpacked desire, authenticity, the appeal and limits of transactional sex, and why feeling wanted can matter more than the act itself.
The conversation shifted into sex work, privacy, celebrity clients, clout-chasing scandals, pegging rumors, and the business realities behind discretion. Durena also opened up about boundaries, guardedness, fame, and why success doesn’t necessarily mean wanting more public recognition—leading into a discussion about building a loyal micro-community, staying creatively irreplaceable, and making content that feels true rather than chasing trends.
Durena also pitched a full-scale "Avengers of porn" feature, with comedians, legacy performers, OnlyFans stars, red carpet, and a potential international "fuck fighter" tournament plot. The episode then detoured into gaming, with Slayer and Durena covering Marvel Rivals, Deadlock, Baldur’s Gate 3, Cyberpunk, Castlevania, Fallout, Mario nostalgia, and the frustrations of team-based competitive play.
Durena’s upcoming comedy special How to Make Your Balls Bigger is also on the way.
Episode 464 is now available via Bleav, Andnowwedrink.com, Apple Podcasts, and on Spotify.
Follow the podcast, Slayer, and Durena on X at @AndNowWeDrink, @Matt_Slayer, and @CheDurena.
