The Jasmin & Kendra Challenges; Earl Tells of Payoffs
Kianna Bradley writes: "Hi Guys Yes It's me! Kianna.I just wanted to say thank you 4 the support, and I will give any one $100 cash if they can get me in the ring with Jasmine. Just 4 the record, I'm. requesting the ring because if this happens in the street, well, Jas won't have a very good next year or two!!!!!!! At least the ring is padded, hee!
"Any ways Kendra, just let me know when and where!!!!!!! I don't think she knows shit like she thinks she does, and I've had it with her shit!!!!!
"I'M DONE WITH HER!!!!! AND JASMINE ONE MORE THING YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE BARKING YOU UGLY BITCH, I LOOK WAY BETTER THAN YOU EVER WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KIANNAONLINE.COM ? AND I DIDNT SPEND $20,000 TO GET THIS WAY. I HOPE YOU DO MEET ME IN THE RING SO WHEN WE ARE DONE YOU CAN GO SPEND ANOTHER $20,000 TO FIX YOURSELF.
"YOU KNOW IF YOU WERNT SUCH A BITCH PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE YOU, BUT THAT AINT GONNA HAPPEN! Thanks again, Kianna Bradley Slate."
Kianna Bradley was contacted to determine what's put the bee in her bonnet about Jasmin. This is what both she and hubby Earl Slate had to say about the "admission of guilt" and payoff comments alluded to by Phyllisha Anne earlier this week in the 9/15 posting.
Slate said he started seeing Bradley a couple of months ago. They got married Sept. 3. Slate's stormy relationship with St. Clair dates back about two years. Slate claims that St. Claire throughout the course of that relationship had been making comments about him through third parties. Damaging comments, he alleges. Comments that hurt his career.
Slate claims St. Claire wrote this 'admission of guilt' statement to him a little over a year ago. He says he never made it public and refrained from it. "I'm in the process right now of suing her," says Slate. "That's one of the key things that my attorney is using - this admission of guilt that she slandered me and did all these rumors. Basically I was hoping she'd let it all die and stop, but she's not doing that. It's kind of rekindled something that started over a year ago, and it's thrown back on the fire and added fuel to it."
Slate says he no longer as contact with St. Claire but would gladly settle on public acknowledgments and apologies by St. Claire that she was making these comments. He said he's not interested in money.
Slate admits his and St. Claire's has been a goofy relationship, that through the course of it, he's had to contend with many of these alleged comments. "In this paper [admission of guilt] it states that, and she admits it, that she went around calling people, saying she was someone other than who she was, saying things about me, and getting people to stop working with me," Slate says. "As a result, my career went from being really hot two years ago, to being almost zero other than the stuff that I produce."
G. Ross: "Earl, you were still seeing her."
Slate: "Until I found out that she actually did this which was about a year ago. She paid me a pretty large sum of money as loss of income." [Slate says he has the cancelled check.]
G. Ross: "When did you actually stop dating her?"
Slate: "I officially stopped dating her about four months ago."
G. Ross: "Earl, doesn't this sound a little screwy to you? Here's a woman that supposedly acknowledged a year ago that she was saying shit about you, but, still, after she tells you this and admits it, you're still seeing her. Doesn't that sound a little goofy?"
Slate: "It does. Everytime I broke up with her, people asked me why I went back. I have an additional paper that she signed that said everytime she created problems after that, and I broke up with her, she paid an additional $1000 fee as a penalty or I wouldn't come back to her. She paid that five times. She was slandering me and paying me at the same time. Until I finally stopped dating her it wasn't worth the money to go through what I was doing with her. I continued to try giving her a chance hoping she'd change, but she never changed."
G. Ross: "This is one of the craziest things I've heard."
Slate: "There's a lot of crazy stuff in this industry. I don't think it's the weirdest thing....I met Kianna when we started doing some work together. We started dating. We fell in love and wound up getting married. This past summer Kianna started talking about how happy she was and Jasmin started writing things."
Kianna: "I'm not used to all this. We have the documents [admission of guilt] notarized. It's saying that she called everybody and was saying she was somebody else and that she lied about that and started rumors about him so he couldn't work with anybody else. We have a copy of a $10,000 check. I was going to drop it until she [Jasmin] started saying stuff about the drugs. She said a couple of other things about me that I didn't appreciate."
Bradley says she's never met St. Claire and doesn't understand why St. Claire is allegedly saying things about her. Bradley says that a phone message St. Claire has in her possession, supposedly from Bradley saying that Slate needed to get back together with St. Claire, is not her.
Gene sez: "Though Jasmin said earlier that she wants to remain totally distanced from this framus, she was contacted regarding these new developments. We're waiting for a response."
The Logos Bust
Cat writes: "Gene: Like most of us in "the business," I'm sure, I was horrified to read about the Logos bust. All of us in our office are now a little concerned about the links we have on our sites! We partner with a couple of U.S. and Canadian companies (Python, etc.) that offer "live Amsterdam feeds." How concerned should we be about those feeds? And do you know which sites were the offending ones?
Gene sez: "As far as the sites are concerned, the Logos site was taken down before it could be determined what were the offending sites. The concern factor can best be answered by attorneys like Clyde DeWitt."
News From Tampa
Dirty Bob writes: "Dirty Gene: You better appreciate this Tampa Show update - I'm taking valuable lap dance time out to send this (eat your heart out!). Tell Paul to send my next check direct to 2001 Odyssey (heh heh).
"Hurricane Floyd passed the Tampa Bay area by without providing so much as a wind burn. Beautiful, sunny, hot, no wind or clouds. Perfect Florida weather.
"The scariest thing to see was the surprise arrival of Johnny Toxic who came with GM Video to tape. This guy is incredible. Regan Senter should take lessons from him! His balls are indeed Toxic: he sweet-talked a local newcummer into doing a scene in exchange for a ticket to the Awards Show (less than the cost of 2 lap dances!). Amazing. The big contest is between him and Mike South. So far Mike is ahead 2 to 1 on picking up and filming girls "discovered" at the local Bennigans! Still, we are here until Tuesday. . .
"The Caravan of Stars starts tomorrow and most of the people have arrived. The most notable no-show so far is Missy and Mickey G. We can't reach them, and they haven't called. Any help on this would be appreciated if you can contact them. A few others had plane problems and will arrive late. I have 7:00 Saturday in the Ron Jeremy traditional late arrival time and I am still in the ballgame as he missed the first flight. Hell, he has missed the first flight for each of the 7 years we have done the show, but he always gets here...sometime. I guess you don't fuck with tradition.
"The big news: I can confirm a Montana Gunn sighting! Radar picked her up as she circled Tampa Airport and damned if she did indeed arrive, on time, with a cute little dog. Jim Gunn, with Ashley Heart in tow, is another matter. They haven't arrived yet. Also MIA is Laurie Holmes and Candy Hill. And your buddy, Tawni Lyons, is DRIVING all the way from Milwaukee (nonstop).
"Tomorrow, in addition to the star signings, is the Car Wash to benefit AIM. It will be held in the parking lot of (you guessed it) 2001 Odyssey. You won't believe this (talk about selective enforcement) the EPA called and told us that we can't allow the water from the car wash to enter the sewers. They wanted us to actually use towels so the water wouldn't go there and let it evaporate. Incredible! So...we found some biodegradable detergent to use instead. I doubt much water will hit the ground if Lovette uses her top to soak up the water!
"More later. Right now I gotta get back to 2001 Odyssey and get in a few more lap dances before they close at 4:00 a.m. Since Serenity is sleeping, I'm gonna drag Steve over and buy him one (since you didn't get your sorry ass down here, I will spend the $20 I was gonna use on you to buy one for him). I'll call you if we need a bail bondsman!"
Dangerboy Record Deal
Brad from Dangerboy writes: "I Read that Mad Jack stuff and all I can say is WOW! Congrads on being a papa. You'll look great with baby vomit on your polo shirt. I think I'm kidding...am I kidding George? So Gene baby...we struck a very cool deal tonight. Dangerboy Video will now be using music exclusively from Ditch Bank records, ditchbank.com , an independent hardcore label from Long Beach. We love this band called MULCH , they have a punk/pop sound that works with Mila's style of fucking. We're using their single called GREENER SKIES in a scene that features first-timer Babyface getting pounded by Mila and Hardman along side of Interstate 5 in Glendale. It should be great, unless we fuck it all up. We're going to do some Mila promotions when theses bands play...she'll be tossin out freebies and screaming obscenities as usual. Seeya."
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Scotty and the Wildlife
Ron Miller writes: "Hi Gene, We read Scotty Schwartz's correspondence to you regarding the Wildlife Video shoot on Wed., 9/15/99 and felt compelled to add our opinions and insight.
"Hell yes, the shoot went late and Brooke Hunter was tired and starting to feel sick, (we're not used to the cold damp air), but, long days and delays are a fact of life in this business. Both Brooke and I have had the pleasure of working for Bobby and Ray on past Wildlife shoots and have always found them to be professional with great crews. Bobby, Ray and everyone we have met and dealt with at Wildlife really goes out of their way to treat talent with respect and dignity. Their product is, in our opinion, very high quality which a reflection of how they treat all the players.
"Brooke always strives to give a great performance for everyone she works for, as well as her fans and it was out of concern for the quality of her performance that she voiced her concerns over the fact that she was feeling tired and had a sore throat. She went on and did a great scene with Mickey G, (you be the judge when it's released), and, after a good nights sleep is none the worse for ware. In fact she is pleased that she has another great scene on tape!
"We can't fault Scotty or Anastasia Blue for "folding up the tents". Everyone has to do what is right for them and if Anastasia and Scotty felt that she would compromise her talents and reputation by way of a poor scene then they did the RIGHT thing.
"We believe that Ray's position, as he explained it to Scotty, Anastasia, Brooke and myself, has a lot of merit. Wildlife is turning out high quality product without the benefit of a big budget, like some of the bigger companies. It can't be easy to compete with all the junk that is produced when you have to work on a tight budget but, if people like Ray and Bobby don't work hard to compete with quality product then we are all in deep trouble as we will be left with far less work and the public will have far less really good material to view. Ray stated that due to budget they had to do in one day what would normally take two, considering they shot at a $6 million dollar mansion I don't even want to think what the location cost per day must have been to say nothing of the equipment and crew. Everyone from the talent to Bobby and Ray and all the crew work long hours and late, as Brooke has said in the past...."that's why they call it work". No one sat on their ass, warm and comfy while the talent worked and no one took any breaks. The production was first rate.
"Maybe a more experienced director could have worked faster but, no one could have gotten any better quality performances from a group of real pro stars.
"Bobby and Ray keep up the good work both Brooke and I would be pleased to work for you any day, or days!
"Scotty, hats off for protecting the lovely lady you represent, you were doing your job and doing it well. Hey, it's only our opinion! Ron Miller, (Don Hollywood) & Brooke Hunter"
More on Schwartz
Quasarman writes: "Just thought I'd put in my two cents regarding the Scotty Schwartz/Ray Anderson grudge match. Let's look at the stats... Schwartz stands 4'9", weighs approximately 110 pounds and is a former child star. Anderson stands 4'6" tall, weighs about the same an is a naturalized Iranian.
"Schwartz delivers naive girls to video sets to make money. Anderson photographs naive girls to make money. Schwartz has worked with Richard Pryor and had his tongue stuck to a flag pole in a Christmas movie starring Darren McGavin of "The Night Stalker" fame. Anderson has worked with the Ayatollah but to the best of my knowledge has never had his tongue stuck anywhere. Things seem about even, but I'm putting my money on Anderson. I like Scotty and all but lets face facts; he's basically Regan Senter with clean clothes. Having worked for Ray Anderson and Bobby Rinaldi many, many times before my present gig at Metro I can assure you that they are both 100% stand up guys and incredibly fair. Having only worked with Scotty when he's delivering girls to casting calls I can only assure you that he is not very tall. Don't know why I felt the need to write this really. Please forgive me. My zoloft prescription ran out recently. thanks Gene."
Gene sez: "I think Luke Ford can give you refills."
Scotty the "Trooper"
Mike Albo writes: "Gene: As a former professor of English, I think somebody needs to tell Scotty Schwartz that, while it's admirable how he defends his "clients," he uses the word "trooper" incorrectly. I only mention this because I've seen this mistake made several times now by various people. The correct word is "trouper." You see, a trooper indicates an enlisted soldier (usually in the cavalry). However, a trouper is a member of an acting "troupe." It can also mean an experienced, dependable actor. It seems odd that li'l Scotty, a former professional actor, doesn't know this. But then, maybe he's just a bonehead."
Gene sez: "I think Scotty meant to use the term 'grouper' which is a variety of sea bass."
A Pack of Lips Now
Farrell Timlake writes: "Farrell the Intrepid Pornographer writes from the jungles of Borneo, where he is working to complete his latest labour of lust, a porno war movie melodrama entitled "The Longest and Hardest Day":
"I almost didn't think I would be able to write this because my hands were cut off by the locals. Seems the gaping ass fuck I gave to one of the locals turned out to be the daughter of the Chief. The day was going beautifully. I had Rodney Coleman, can you believe it, and he was doing a major athletic performance (Did you know that his penis was enhanced while he still had the dough) and he was sure to be up for an award for cocksman of the year. He was working with Barbara Bush. I know what you are thinking, but not that Barbara Bush, you know, the other one. The one who was the ex-girlfriend of a friend of a guy who met Pete Rose when he still was on the commissions good side. She may be a little older, but she was smoking that pipe till you thought her head was going to explode, then finally she did a scene with Rodney and some of the locals that made that godawful trip round the World worthwhile.
"Picture this, about one thousand pierced and painted with real filed teeth Borneo headhunters and all bowing to the Rodster, that is his porn nom de guerre, playing the witch doctor. Barbed Higher, like we started calling her, comes out in a Mackie original that we were promised would perform on cue. You see, as the guys began masturbating and chanting and doing their Googa Mooga dance, they were supposed to start spitting and the dress would suddenly unfurl to become a space ship. WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS! In Borneo, as I learned the hard way, you do not always get what you pay for unless you pay extra which is something I did not find out until it was too late and I was too broke to do anything about it.
"I know no one wants to hear my bitching, but I am trying to learn to type with my toes and production has gone over into the rainy season. I can't shoot anything right now unless it involves a torrential down pour and I have already done my "Swinging in the Rain" porno musical so I am at a little bit of a loss what to do with the situation.
"Anyway, the scene was going fine, the guys were jerking and spitting and carrying on. Rodney was OK with the dialog, he messed up the "Bring me the Butter" line, but hey, I guess there is only one Marlon Brando and he was still recovering from the scare the day before when we did the orgy scene in real quicksand. So Rodney's thingie finally starts working and the batteries seem like they're going to last through the scene, but the dress, the fucking dress, does not open. Now I have about a thousand hungry and horny cannibals who think they are going to fuck and eat my star and I am thinking "Why did God make me a Pornographer?" That is when I guess I went a little nutty. Hell, I was already still quaking with blue balls because my favorite fluffer, Molly Ringwilder, had decided to bail with the crew of Viennese P.A's that we fired. (Don't ask, subject of future video.)
"So I am pissed off like a wolverine on crack and hornier than a bonobo at a monkey sex party and I am looking at my shoot going down the tubes, but I see the scar Tammi Ann gave me, and I remember there were much tougher days when I was working the beat off with Max Hardcore so I says to myself, "You are better than this, you are a good person, Sex For Life Too was the best weird ass fucking porno of all time, your time will come, you deserve the best and nothing less, you are an excellent lover, you rock, you can handle it, you have nothing to worry about, and the grass is always tastier when you grow it yourself."
"Then the courage and inspiration comes upon me like I just discovered the cure for cancer but the doctor just told me that I had a rare condition where I was going to be fine for a month then my face would fall off. I come out fighting and I take on one thousand hopped up, horny, hungry jungle devils and we commence to a rumble like I haven't seen since I was bangin' with the Crips. Body parts are flying, the camera is rolling on everything, and I know what you are thinking, "What the hell does this have to do with making porn?" I'll tell you.
"At the end of it, since I was the only one still standing, I guess I made one hell of a great impression on this big, really big, rain forest Princess named Shamu, after the famous killer whale her parents saw on their honeymoon to San Diego. Seems, she had a mind to carry me back and fuck me so hard that I would pass out, whereupon the tribe would start eating pieces off of me until I woke up, then I would be the object of extreme mirth in the village until they decided to kill me and eat the rest. Well, I may not have fucked on film for a while, but remember, I survived working with Jeanna Fine who eats most men up and spits them out like fishbones. I'd been working out. My chops were on, and I working that fucking filly like my life depended on it, which it did.
"I was turning her inside out. Her pussy started singing the French National Anthem. I made her my cum bucket whore pigfucker slutty schoolgirl and she was screaming like my kingsnake was biting her good! Too good. Turns out these savages have laws against allowing a woman to orgasm. Can you believe the fucking barbarity of it? It gets worse. If you are caught making a woman cum, then they cut your hands off so, they say, you can never ever masturbate again! Another tribesman explained the practice really has to do with an age old custom against creating competition in the tribe. We are all trying hard still to be very respectful of the local customs, but frankly I would like my hands back.
"Can you please post this on your board so people will send me money so I can get out of this godforsaken country when the rain stops and the runway is rebuilt and get back to making fine ass porno like I did in the good ol' days? My second wife is available for scenes to pay anyone back when we return while we are still living out of our suitcases. I promise she won't bite and will work a good hard day at the orifice. Also I am available to do scenes that look like fisting but are not, or any kind of amputee videos. Me and the wife don't have to work together. Unless, of course, that is what you want. Thanks.
"We do a great scene together, I swear. She doesn't even need any of that dick death ass lube either. Ever. Never. You have to see her to believe it. I swear. Sincerely, Farrell"
Gene sez: "Farrell, you haven't been hanging out with Kid Vegas, have you?"
Allison Kilgore on Mad Jack and Kid Vegas
Allison Kilgore writes: "The story behind kid vegas is that in real life outside of porno he is a real cool person a little crazy i might add but nothing that can not be controlled. At first i was using him as a rebound from me ex who i was in love with for two years, but the situation became too sticky. kid vegas came to vegas and to hang out with me and my ex broke into my car and stole all of his stuff to get even. i am sorry that happened my ex was arrested only because he was hurt in his heart to see i was with someone else.
"my ex is a highly respected computer professional. he meant no harm. sad to say my heart was still with him even though i wanted to run and play with kid vegas. i decided to get out of the porn biz and be mean to kid vegas to be with my ex only because i felt it would be normal and the right way of life so i could go with school and live.
"i did do that for about four months but i became bored and unhappy for one reason or another the porn biz because of me has already caused too many problems. this is one biz you can not hide although i have tried. i did care and love and want to be with my ex, but i also loved the porn scene. i stopped making porn for about 6 months for him, but because things were looking good. but things happen and i did otherwise. i did get back into it somewhat by shooting smother shots for mad jack, but the shoot was taking too long because they were drinking and partying. i did not want my boyfriend to know what i was doing even though it was no big deal. so i had to leave. Mad jack is not a bad person to be around, and just to let him know i gave no one his phone number because i do not remember it or his address. i do know his apartments and that is about it. maybe i should not deal with porn, but sometime it is fun because of the attention. mad jack knew i was trying to keep the pictures away from my boyfriend, but he posted them anyway on luke ford which my ex checks on a regular basis as well as yours. so that is all i have to say and i will do whatever i feel like is the best. and by the way there is no baby vegas love allison kilgore feel free to call me."
Radio Darklady -- The Saga Continues
Darklady writes: "As I hammered away at my Special October Column the phone rang, and who should be calling but Gwen the receptionist from KGUY. She has been in communication with illusive station owner, JJ McKay concerning the fate of Radio Darklady.
"What was the word? "It's no go until October 2nd."
"So, no show this Friday. No show this Saturday. No Susie Bright on the radio. However, I still have a call into Bright's Publicity Manager indicating my continued interest in a telephone interview, at least. We'll see what the morrow brings.
"Next week I will be in San Francisco attending Folsom Street Fair and schmoozing with the Bay Area's Beautiful People. No doubt there will be adventures. I have agreed to contact KGUY upon my return from San Francisco and perhaps then learn the fate of my KGUY radio show. This does not, of course, mean moss is growing on my size 8 1/2's.
Sandra Margot writes: "hell-o gene. i am writing to you to confirm a rumor that has been drifting about: yes, i am going to be doing my first movie in over 4 years. yes, it is a Michael Ninn/VCA feature. it will be entitled "eViL HoLe." yes, it is named after my website, www.evilhole.com. (Michael said that the name of my website "inspired" his idea for the script! wow!!!) we are tentatively set to begin lensing in December. all 5 VCA contract girls will be in the movie as well. sandra margot aka 'Tyffany Million' "
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Now out of jail, Sasha Gabor's out a $1000. Sasha paid his attorneys $2400 as a retainer and got a refund of $1400. Sasha said all his attorneys did for him was accept two collect calls. "I'm very furious," says Sasha. "I'm talking to as many attorneys as I can to see if I can sue him." Sasha had paid the retainer in an attempt to get a hearing to have his jail sentence converted to house arrest. Ironically, after paying the retainer, Sasha was released from jail, anyway, due to overcrowding. He was serving a year sentence stemming from a DUI that goes back about 8 years.
Sasha, who's currently under house arrest until next April, credits his friend Spas with having done all the legwork to secure his release from prison. Sasha says the monitoring people who keep tabs on him get a big kick out of who he is. Nevertheless, he says he has to observe two pages of rules and if he fucks up on any one of them, back he goes. Sasha says he can't even go on the balcony of his house because that will trigger the alarm. He says he'd love to be first in line for the Candy Apples gangbang. Try telling that to the monitoring people.
Mad Jack: "I Knocked Up Senneca"
Responding to stories on Luke Ford's site, Mad Jack admits that he got Midnight Video contract girl Senneca pregnant. "But it's going to be handled. She's going to the doctor on the 22nd," Jack noted. "That's what we discussed. I'm kind of mixed on the whole thing. Let's face it. She's 22 and in Canada. I'm here. But I'm thinking, I'm 40. I wouldn't mind have a kid with a hardbody like that. But I think it would be a fucking nightmare overall."
Jack said it probably was a wild-assed assumption on his part but he thought she'd be on birth control. "We were both in the heat of passion, and I pretty much wasn't thinking."
Jack reports that his feud with Allison Kilgore continues. "I'm not incredibly vindictive, but I hired her to do some stuff," he says. "And then she pulled a no-show on me. She had agreed to a price to do some still-stuff, a boy/girl and blowjob scene. I got all the boy-girl footage which is pretty good. Then I got the still-stuff and when we were done we were going to do the blowjob scene, but we were all burned out. Since she lives here, she told me she didn't have a problem with coming back. Then she pulled a no-show. She apologized for over-sleeping and asked to reschedule. In the meantime, I put this little piece on Luke about how great she was to work with. She was having a problem with her boyfriend, and because I put this on the 'Net, she used that as an excuse."
Jack says when his ex-partner Damon Younger left the company he took a master tape which another individual in Las Vegas had financed. "He [Younger] sold that video to a company in Los Angeles, however the guy who financed it did not got paid back," Jack says. "The guy wants his money back. This individual who financed the tape went down to Crazy Horse Too where Allison dances. She gave him my address and phone number. When I heard this I got pissed. I went ahead and wrote a piece on Luke about Allison and put a bunch of hardcore shots on there knowing her boyfriend was going to get pissed at her. She rebutted with some stupid stuff Wednesday. I rebutted her rebuttal. That's kind of where that's sitting."
Jack continues to do projects in Vegas but says he's been running into a high flake factor with LA-based porn stars. "I'm better off using girls here," he says. "I don't get it. I pay decent money and put a nice package together." Jack says anyone who wants to shoot can call him at 702-251-9142.
Wildlife: "Schwartz Unprofessional; And a Pimp"
Talent manager Scotty Schwartz turned into the late baseball manager Leo Durocher when he got into the face of Wildlife Productions on a shoot, Wednesday. Schwartz posted an earlier e-mail in which he took Wildlife to task for a shoot than ran overtime. Schwartz represents Anastasia Blue who was given a call time of 2 pm to be on the set. "After waiting around for get this!!! 9 hours... she finally decided to leave," Schwartz wrote in his email. "Why??? It was 11:15 pm and they still had a sex scene to shoot before it was her turn to work. She was looking to not start working before 2-3 am, it was taking them 3 hours per scene. This is absolutely RIDICULOUS!!! They aren't exactly shooting the remake of "The Ten Commandments"."
Schwartz also made issue of Brooke Hunter having to wait around. "Her [Hunter's] health however was fading as her throat was killing her due to the air, and her energy level was down as was all the actors who were there. She is a trooper!!!" Schwartz wrote.
Schwartz said he expected Anastasia to be treated like a professional. Schwartz also made note that Ray Anderson proceeded to get upset with the fact that Schwartz and Blue were leaving
